<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:30:12
!startmeeting FESCO (2024-01-29)
!meetingname fesco
Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im, @sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im, @mhayden:fedora.im, @tstellar:fedora.im
!topic Init Process
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
19:30:13
Meeting started at 2024-01-29 19:30:12 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
19:30:13
The Meeting name is 'FESCO (2024-01-29) !meetingname fesco Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im, @sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im, @mhayden:fedora.im, @tstellar:fedora.im !topic Init Process'
<@tstellar:fedora.im>
19:30:35
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:30:35
Tom Stellard (tstellar)
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:30:39
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:30:40
Josh Stone (jistone) - he / him / his
<@marcdeop:matrix.org>
19:30:42
!hello
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:30:43
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:30:43
Marc Deop (marcdeop)
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:30:44
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek)
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:30:53
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:30:54
David Cantrell (dcantrell) - he / him / his
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
19:31:03
morning
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
19:31:05
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:31:06
Kevin Fenzi (kevin) - he / him / his
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:31:28
That's quorum.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:31:31
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:31:33
Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:31:39
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:31:40
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:32:07
Let's go then.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:32:10
!topic #3122 Consider changing maximum size for network install images (also affects Workstation)
!fesco 3122
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:32:42
!fesco 3122
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:32:43
**fesco #3122** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3122):**Consider changing maximum size for network install images (also affects Workstation)**
● **Opened:** a month ago by adamwill
● **Last Updated:** 2 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:33:00
Hmm, not sure why it didn't work the first time.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:33:42
Proposal: Accept all of Adam's proposals in the latest comment.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:33:53
+1
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
19:33:58
+1 (and make sure workstation WG is ok with it too)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:34:04
+1 to sgallagh
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:34:15
+1
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:34:33
#info https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3122#comment-893698
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:34:38
!info https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3122#comment-893698
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:34:48
!link https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3122#comment-893698
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:34:51
+1
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:35:34
this feels like a debt-limit vote -- as long as we understand the source of growth, with no sudden surprises, it seems fine
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:36:01
I have to admit that the "x is typing" feature is nice. It helps to know that somebody's formulating their thoughts.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:36:03
it pretty much is
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:36:07
Yeah.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:36:54
BTW, I think that the graph I made based on AdamW's data is interesting: the growth was essentially linear for a long time, until the artificial ceiling was hit, and then the curve was flat for a bit.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:37:35
!agreed APPROVED (+6, 0, 0)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:37:54
!topic #3152 Change: Run Anaconda dir/image installations only in non-interactive text mode
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:38:07
!fesco 3152
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:38:08
**fesco #3152** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3152):**Change: Run Anaconda dir/image installations only in non-interactive text mode**
● **Opened:** 5 days ago by amoloney
● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
● **Assignee:** vponcova
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:40:16
Conan Kudo: are there fixes they could make to resolve your need for the interactive mode?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:40:26
It sounds like this boils down to the anaconda team not having the capacity to support a little-used feature.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:40:59
ultimately, the `--image` flag changes very little about anaconda's behavior except forcing the rest of the code to only see a specific disk
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:41:44
there are currently no methods for doing kickstart testing, and using kickstarts as a substitute for interactive installation in this way is horribly incomplete
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:43:27
I would have less issues if the kickstart mode wasn't so buggy and there was a way to do interactive kickstart generation in Fedora so that the result is always valid
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:43:28
alternatively, if we keep the functionality, but the team has no capacity for it, is it still in reasonable shape?
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:44:14
we [the anaconda team] proposed interactive ks generation many years ago and were denied [the ability to work on that feature]
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:44:28
I'm very sympathetic to their issues, but at the same time, the stuff that's supposed to work doesn't seem to either :(
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:44:51
I wound up using it years ago to work around things that I was told they don't have the time or ability to work on
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:47:15
I'm sympathetic to what Neal is saying, but I don't quite think we can tell upstream developers to not drop a feature, when the feature is complicated and increases their testing matrix. If this feature was something crucial to the common workflows, that could be different. But when it's not, and is just "useful", then we can't really demand anything and the Proposal is just a nice heads-up for nice.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:47:52
I'm fine with them dropping it, but the premise of their Change document is not valid because they assert it's only used or can be used for image builds
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:48:09
I'm pushing back in part because they didn't know that it's used for "normal" installation purposes too
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:48:28
and I'm hoping this time the bugs I've reported and reporting again would maybe get some attention
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:49:11
it sounds like that may not be the case either, so I dunno
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:49:16
well, your example is not a normal installation. they have stated it's an unsupported use case as you describe it. the fact that it works in your case is irrelevant
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:49:32
(hints of https://xkcd.com/1172/ there)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:49:37
I was suggested this path by them back in the F34 days :/
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:49:51
Conan Kudo: Forgive me if this comes across harshly, but if you're using it in a way that the developers did not anticipate, that doesn't really sound like they should be required to support it.
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:50:02
unsupported _now_
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:50:19
I did not know it could be used this way until I was told I could do that to work around my issues that they had no time to fix
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:50:34
I read this change proposal as one that is trying to eliminate duplication of work and shift people to image builder for those types of installs and leave anaconda for interactive and kickstart install paths. I don't have a problem with that
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:50:50
yeah, I don't care about that either
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:52:11
I wasn't there, so I have no idea if they pitched this approach to you as a hacky temporary workaround or expected it to be a supported path, but I think the existence of this request suggests that whatever the prior intent, they've determined it's a dead-end
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:52:46
changes like this do help the installer team significantly reduce the QA test matrix
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:53:07
it sure beat the crap I was doing to test things during F33 changes, so I adopted it pretty quickly
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:53:32
then with it going away, let's pour one out for it in Brussels :)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:53:37
OK. I think the positions are clear and we should vote.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:53:52
I'm +1
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:53:57
+1
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
19:54:01
+1 here.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:54:03
-1
<@jistone:fedora.im>
19:54:12
+1
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:54:51
Whom are we missing?
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:55:39
the pykickstart package includes 'ksvalidator' to validate the syntax of a kickstart file against a specific Fedora or EL release. anaconda also writes anaconda-ks.cfg to /root on each install, which makes for nice templates
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:56:50
Do we only have 5 people?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:56:56
+1
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:57:00
dcantrell: it doesn't validate the contents, only the syntax
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:57:10
e.g. %packages is not checked for a valid transaction
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:57:19
zbyszek: Sorry, I looked away for a moment.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:57:40
that's the biggest problem tbh, because anaconda's failure modes with bad %packages sections are pretty bad
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:57:46
correct, it's only a syntax validator.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:57:48
!agreed APPROVED (+5, 0, -1)
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:58:15
problems reported with %packages issues were always nearly impossible to debug. the problem is the existence of packages
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:58:28
we should just be like a BSD and distribute daily builds of everything as a single fedora.tgz file
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:58:32
Well, if everyone jumps over to bootable containers, maybe that works around the issue>?
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:58:33
Sorry, I knew there was one more person. It's almost 21:00 here and I don't feel like the sharpest tool in the shed.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:58:33
oh lordy
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
19:58:56
Since the built containers can be tested before being applied to a destination system...
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:58:58
!topic #3158 Change: Arm Minimal Image OS Build
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
19:59:02
!fesco 3158
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:59:02
**fesco #3158** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3158):**Change: Arm Minimal Image OS Build**
● **Opened:** 2 days ago by amoloney
● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
● **Assignee:** pbrobinson
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
19:59:08
I remember asking a BSD person one time "so how do you guys handle upgrades?" and the response was "we don't! have fun!"
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:00:01
Oh, I added this one to the agenda because Neal asked for "something like pagure.io/fedora-blueprints".
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:00:06
I'm not clear on why this made it on the agenda. No one voted -1 so far.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:00:45
I intentionally didn't vote because I wanted to see if anyone else cared about my opinion
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:01:05
for... reasons, I am not prepared to fight very hard for this
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:01:10
well, not alone anyway
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:01:28
if no one else cares, then there's no point in me forcing the matter
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:01:37
I think it was very nice in the Kiwi proposal, because it made it very easy to evaluate.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:01:48
But in this case, IIUC, the work is not done yet.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:02:49
If that's something we'd like to see in the future, I think we need to have a separate proposal for that (along with documentation)
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:03:09
I think it's unfair to put that requirement in at the proverbial last minut
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:03:12
I think it's unfair to put that requirement in at the proverbial last minute
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:03:21
I asked it at the very beginning of the process though
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:04:10
like we already kind of have this problem with Fedora IoT
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:04:12
Hmm, I don't quite understand. OSbuild is a generic image builder, so the definitions will have to live _somewhere_.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:04:13
I have no idea how we build it
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:04:29
So building the definitions is part of the proposal, implicitly, no?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:04:40
no, it is not
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:04:49
osbuild has hardcoded baseline builds
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:05:00
you can choose to have blueprints, or you can choose to have nothing
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:05:18
iot is build from pungi using the https://pagure.io/fedora-iot repo IIRC
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:05:31
even an empty blueprint file that just has the name and version would be better than just calling pungi to do things(tm)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:06:04
That seems to be an empty repo?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:06:13
I think it's fine to ask for clarification from change owners... do we need to discuss it more?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:06:43
the underlying concern is I have no idea how the image is made and that means nobody else does either
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:06:54
what if we have to debug it? what if there's a package problem? etc.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:06:59
it doesn't look empty to me?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:07:17
the repo just has a readme file
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:07:20
nothing else
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:07:35
https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/pungi-iot/blob/main/f/fedora-iot.conf
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:07:36
it's not empty, but clearly that's not where the build definition lives
<@salimma:fedora.im>
20:07:54
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
20:07:55
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:07:59
is it important to be a blueprint in particular? or just that whatever mechanism that built it is available
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:08:19
I use blueprint because that's the osbuild term for it
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:08:48
but more accurately, the package set and image configuration parameters should be somewhere controllable by the SIG, contributors, and releng
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:09:18
I don't really care what it's called, my underlying ask is that I would like to not have a mystery meat image build
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:11:09
I think Neal has a point.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:11:17
the only reason I didn't say something in the related Fedora IoT changes this cycle was that there is no point in my complaining about this now that I discovered the problem to block that stuff, but I don't really want new images that we have no idea how the work
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:11:34
the only reason I didn't say something in the related Fedora IoT changes this cycle was that there is no point in my complaining about this now that I discovered the problem to block that stuff, but I don't really want new images that we have no idea how they work
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:11:39
So let's continue the discussion in the ticket.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:12:02
I'm fine with that
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:12:05
Can I jump to the next topic?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:12:09
yup
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:12:13
!topic (Lack of) voting in FastTrack proposals
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:12:53
So… this doesn't have a ticket, bu the issue is that all the recent FastTrack proposals failed, i.e. just timed out and we defaulted to the normal voting policy after one week.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:13:23
Dunno, that just doesn't seem like an optimal outcome when people ask for a quick response.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:13:39
I don't have any particular idea, but I think there's a problem.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:13:42
perhaps somehow we could make it more clear when something is fasttrack or not?
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:13:48
I don't have any particular idea how to solve this, but I think there's a problem.
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:13:54
it might help if there were something in the title (-> email subject) that highlighted FastTrack
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:14:12
we can turn on emailing on actions including when people add labels
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:14:26
(I thought this was already on...)
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
20:15:52
I think it is? I used to get emails on status changes like that.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:16:03
yeah, in the subject would be nice.
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:16:20
the label needs to be noticed if it's there from the start too
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:16:34
I think there might not be any mail in case in the label is there from the start. Yeah.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:16:39
maybe we need to create issue templates
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:16:51
I know I always include in the comment if I nominate something for FastTrack
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:16:57
same
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:17:30
It would be nice if FastTrack tickets could auto-send reminders once a day, maybe.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:17:31
yeah, but if you do that and then 4 people vote, someone coming along could just see the votes and not realize it's fast track... but dunno if thats a real problem or not.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:17:45
So… should we try with the approach of changing the title to end with [FastTrack] and see if that helps?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:17:55
I suspect the problem is more of people getting busy and forgetting about it than anything else
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:17:58
I like the title idea
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:18:20
yeah, we could ask people to put a prefix for FastTrack
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:18:29
it becomes blaringly obvious then
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:18:49
wait, do we not have a fasttrack label? I thought we did
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:18:54
we do
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:19:01
!action zbyszek to submit a draft for the Fesco page to mention the changing of the title for FastTrack issues.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:19:08
+1 to try the change to title.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:19:17
+1
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:19:32
Proposal: FastTrack tickets must gain a [FastTrack] title addition and if they have not received enough votes in 48 hours, a FESCo member should send a reminder
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:19:34
(not that votes are really needed for this, only the PR itself once it's made)
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:19:39
you only see the label/tag if you're looking at pagure web
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:19:41
+1
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:19:52
Stephen Gallagher: +1
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:19:59
+1
<@tstellar:fedora.im>
20:20:04
+1
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:20:10
I wouldn't wait 48 hours to add to the title -- just do it right away
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:20:11
Stephen Gallagher: I'd just change the title always, when setting the label.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:20:29
zbyszek: That's what I'm saying. Maybe it's unclear?
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:20:41
Ah, OK, now I see.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:20:43
+1 then.
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:21:12
ok, yeah
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:21:39
!agreed FastTrack tickets must gain a [FastTrack] title addition and if they have not received enough votes in 48 hours, a FESCo member should send a reminder (+6, 0, 0)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:21:56
OK, everyone's favorite
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:21:58
!topic Next week's chair
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:22:20
Obvious first question: will we have quorum with FOSDEM travel going on?
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:22:21
can't, out of town
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:22:29
can't, on a plane
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:22:33
I'll be already back.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:22:45
oh actually no, won't be on a plane
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:22:48
but I will be half dead
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:22:50
I'll be on the way to the Fedora Council gathering
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:22:56
I prefer to say half alive
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:23:11
lol glass half full inded
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:23:16
lol glass half full indeed
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:23:39
"he's only mostly dead"
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:23:41
OK, so it sounds like we should skip the next meeting. We're likely to not to make quorum.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:23:46
Schrodinger's Neal?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:23:54
aren't I that always?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:24:04
I don't know, I haven't checked.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:24:07
I guess that's mostly stopped since moving to Matrix
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:24:08
!info Next meeting will be February 12th.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:24:52
Since we're not going to have next week's meeting, do we have time to discuss a topic that was just filed for meeting today?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:25:04
I can probably take it Feb 12 if no one else can.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:26:00
!action Stephen Gallagher will chair the next meeting (in two weeks).
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:26:11
Conan Kudo: go
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:26:19
!topic Open Floor
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:27:08
So, travier from the KDE SIG filed a ticket with FESCo just before this meeting started, and I'd like FESCo folks to look at it if they can
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:27:37
!topic #3165 Requesting FESCo assistance with issue about plasma-x11
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:27:43
!fesco 3165
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
20:27:44
**fesco #3165** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3165):**Requesting FESCo assistance with issue about plasma-x11**
● **Opened:** an hour ago by siosm
● **Last Updated:** an hour ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:28:39
Pffff.
<@jistone:fedora.im>
20:28:41
so the request is to keep the X11 fallbacks exiled to COPR, blocked from Fedora repos?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:28:47
(yes, I realize the irony of bringing this up today given the stuff we discussed today...)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:29:10
yes
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:29:18
I've been in meetings for 6 hours, can we take this up async or at the next meeting?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:29:24
Does it need to be blocked from the repos or just from installable media?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:29:29
we can take it async
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:29:36
thx
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:29:45
I just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention now because it's urgent from the KDE SIG's PoV
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:30:01
Right. There are also the nonresponsive-maintainer and other tickets that need looking at.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:30:04
I suppose we could say 'don't add the packages while we consider this' ?
<@marcdeop:matrix.org>
20:30:10
I am willing to chat async if anybody needs me (member of the kde sig)
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:30:15
nirik+1
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:30:23
nirik: I'm good with that +
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:30:24
nirik: I'm good with that +1
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:30:44
yeah, don't do anything while we discuss
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:30:57
I'll take that to the ticket and we can continue to discuss from there.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:31:14
probibly update the bugs too so submitters/reviewers know
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:31:39
OK, anything else, ideally brief, for open floor?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:32:02
Yeah, I'll update the Review tickets too
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:32:08
looking forward to meeting folks in Brussels, if anyone of y'all are going to be here this week?
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
20:32:22
I get in Friday, not there for CentOS connect
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:32:29
(and I'm clearly tired with the number of typos increasing...)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:32:29
I'll be there. On the second day of Centos Connect too.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:33:09
If nothing else, I'll close in a minute.
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:33:47
!endmeeting
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
20:34:20
!endmeeting